We reported yesterday that Return To Amish couple Carmela and Jeremiah Raber are in the midst of a very acrimonious split that is playing out publicly on Facebook. Their Facebook fighting has continued, and it reveals a hellish relationship full of lies, mental abuse, physical violence, and alleged attempted killings. Yes, that is plural.
It previously appeared that Jermela’s latest break up was sparked by a FedEx package that was late getting picked up, but it seems the real cause could have been something even more trivial. According to Jeremiah’s most recent series of posts, the whole thing began after he switched his Facebook profile photo from one of him and Carmela to one of just himself. That switch allegedly caused Carmela to give Jeremiah the silent treatment as far as text messages and phone calls, so he was left with no other option but to take to Facebook to fight it out.
I feel that there is SOOOO much revealed in the posts that I have no choice but to include all of Jeremiah and Carmela’s comments in their entirety (below), but I will bullet point a few of the more extraordinary claims first.
Jeremiah addresses Carmela’s injuries that were documented in the police report when he was arrested for domestic violence back in April. In the report, the officer says Carmela showed him “several large bruises on her legs and arms that were caused from the defendant striking her with a closed fist. The victim stated that the defendant strikes her on a daily basis.”
Here’s how Jeremiah explained some of Carmela’s injuries — I hope he is referring to the same bruises as the ones documented on the day of his arrest:
You love to tell people that I’m the one that’s always so wrong but tell him how you got the marks on your arms tell them that there was Witnesses here the night you were going to smash Malachi’s phone with a hammer and I came from behind and I grabbed your arms so you wouldn’t do it
And I ended up leaving you alone so you could smash the phone and you would not stop until it was done
Or tell them about the bruises on your legs where I was sitting in the car trying to have my alone time to calm down cuz we were arguing and you kept sticking your legs in while I was shutting the door and that’s how those bruises got there and you even admitted it to Steve Dawn and Brian
Jeremiah then turns the tables by accusing Carmela of bruising (and “slashing”) him!
Or what about the pictures of you slashing my hand or the bruises on my body of you throwing sh!t at me or the pictures of the house while me Dawn and Steve when Jacksonville you broke a lot of sh!t trashed entire house and then later on you did it again
There are also two separate entries in which both Carmela and Jeremiah describe an incident where one person tried to kill or threatened to kill the other:
What about the screenshots of the text messages you sent me the one time you left and you conspired to have me killed
Oh!! And the fight now is because u got a gun and I don’t trust u. You already attempted that with me so please be straight. I told u I’d work on things but not with no gun.. also time limits.. also being called names.. also not havin to worry about all my stuff being burned or broken.
I’m not dumb I know why u got it
that gun u tried to shoot me with.. had it not been for the back door while u we’re closing the bedroom door I’d be dead right now.. don’t forget I have gods protection. Ur making up sh!t that u have done to me but turning it around saying I did. I’m asking u to please leave me alone.
And there’s another gun that Jeremiah suggests might be connected to an unsolved murder case in Portland, Oregon!?
But talking about guns let’s talk about the one you were hiding for one of your friends who use the gun to kill somebody else and there still an unsolved mystery in Portland. Watch How soon this comment gets delete it
…Okay if you have nothing to hide then tell them the truth about the gun you were hiding for one of your friends and then you gave it off to your son’s girlfriend’s dad
I’m honestly speechless here. I would normally say that I am just glad no one was seriously injured, but apparently that is not the case because not only were Carmela and Jeremiah seriously injured, but someone in Portland was killed?! I cannot believe Carmela had young children living in this environment, and I cannot believe that Jeremiah’s ex-wife allows him to have unsupervised visits with his kids if what they are describing is accurate. (And no, I will not accept any excuses like “We never shot at each other or slammed each others’ limbs in car doors while the children were around.”)
Carmela is currently in Washington state for a funeral, so thankfully she and her children are just about as far from Jeremiah as physically possible, without leaving the country. Although I’m sure she will have to return to Florida at some point to handle issues surrounding their divorce, which looks like it will be anything but amicable.
OK, I will step out of the way now and let Jeremiah and Carmela speak for themselves. Then, toward the end, commenters enter the conversation as well — including Carmela’s aunt.
JEREMIAH: Looks like I’m going to have to put the truth out there on my page publicly so these m************ stop taking one side of the story since you will not tell the truth.
CARMELA: Do it
JEREMIAH: This morning you promised me you would not be negative when you wake up but then when you woke up you were negative all because I had changed my profile picture and you lied because you said you would not do this. You have done this for so long you have lied Non-Stop
JEREMIAH: Just answer your phone and stop ignoring me because you promised me this morning you would stop doing that
JEREMIAH: You lie non-stop to me but the minute you think I have lied then it’s pure hell and you treat me like sh!t
JEREMIAH: and you’re acting this way all because I changed my profile picture which there is absolutely nothing wrong with that but this is what I mean I have to tread so softly around you
CARMELA: Jeremiah Raber keep your negative stuff off my page.
JEREMIAH: Keep my negative stuff off your page? Look at the sh!t you’re posting
CARMELA: Do it on your own
JEREMIAH: You lied to me you promised me this morning you would not be negative
JEREMIAH: But here we are you being negative if you can answer my phone calls which you promised me you would answer all because I changed my profile picture
CARMELA: Posting what u want to say that I’m being abusive all because I was spending time with my boys but because I wouldn’t delete my post and cuz I didn’t call on time I get yelled at in front of your kids! I refuse to fight in front of them I get called names and say I’m a liar but yet u get to lie and make me miss my deadline for my car insurance.. yet u burn all my kids stuff.. erased all my boys fathers pictures! And sent them the proof!!! And u are calling me abusive?! Puhlease..
JEREMIAH: Actually she’s lying about those pictures I never deleted any of them
JEREMIAH: You have not wanted to spend time with my kids from day one you have always found some excuse to not be around them
JEREMIAH: I’m sick and tired of being lied to every single day you mother f**kers take one side of the story and you run with it all because you’re worthless bastards
JEREMIAH: You guys are pushing me to the point where I’m going to snap
JEREMIAH: You guys stalk and harass our Pages just to screenshot the sh!t and take it back to the other group well guess what by law that is illegal and it is being dealt with
CARMELA: I’m lying?? So ur saying u didn’t reset my computer to factory settings then took my iPhone and smashed and broke both my iPhone and computer??!
JEREMIAH: Don’t act stupid don’t act like you did not get those pictures back
JEREMIAH: See I have screenshots of you saying I have no right in our marriage my opinion doesn’t matter I’m not allowed to do anything you lie to these people non-stop you say that I’m the one that be using you when no reality you’re the one that makes a lot of the marks yourself and I have proof and witnesses that saw everything and you even admitted to them
CARMELA: I didnt
JEREMIAH: I even have the screenshot where your friend told you to use me for the TV show
JEREMIAH: Yes you did and you know you did you’re lying
JEREMIAH: Maybe I’ll have to f**king get the people who you admitted it to to actually come on here and tell their side of the story
JEREMIAH: But you would never tell these people that I asked you to stop and you say you don’t give a f
JEREMIAH: Or what about the messages you sent me two nights ago saying that you do no wrong in the marriage
CARMELA: I never got my pictures back of lem. Only the ones I had saved to my Facebook.
CARMELA: U erased our wedding photos my cousin took.
JEREMIAH: Or what about the pictures of you slashing my hand or the bruises on my body of you throwing sh!t at me or the pictures of the house while me Dawn and Steve when Jacksonville you broke a lot of sh!t trashed entire house and then later on you did it again
JEREMIAH: As far as the wedding pictures it’s kind of funny because there’s a lot of wedding pictures up on the wall that your cousin took
JEREMIAH: Just stop the bullsh!t and call me like you promised me you would
CARMELA: If I don’t do as u say u try to publicly humiliate me with lies u have made up. At this point I don’t care.. u know what’s even more crazy is that when I get in trouble u tell on my like I’m a child to your parents. How f**ked up is that.. most humiliating point in my life is explaining to them why I take so long in the bathroom! I have a jpouch . Then to be told not to trigger u.. f**k that no more
JEREMIAH: You love to tell people that I’m the one that’s always so wrong but tell him how you got the marks on your arms tell them that there was Witnesses here the night you were going to smash Malachi’s phone with a hammer and I came from behind and I grabbed your arms so you wouldn’t do it
JEREMIAH: And I ended up leaving you alone so you could smash the phone and you would not stop until it was done
JEREMIAH: Or tell them about the bruises on your legs where I was sitting in the car trying to have my alone time to calm down cuz we were arguing and you kept sticking your legs in while I was shutting the door and that’s how those bruises got there and you even admitted it to Steve Dawn and Brian
JEREMIAH: Problem is you will never put the truth out
JEREMIAH: Or tell them about the screenshots I have of your messages where I was so depressed I was at the point of suicide and you told me go ahead do it
JEREMIAH: Tell them how you act every time I call you
JEREMIAH: You love to put out about what I do but you will never put out there the sh!t you say or do
JEREMIAH: What about the screenshots of the text messages you sent me the one time you left and you conspired to have me killed
JEREMIAH: Sure if I would just see your side I’d probably think the other person is ignorant as fuk
JEREMIAH: This morning before you went to bed everything was fine and you promised me you would call me and not be negative even though you had me blocked on Facebook so I changed my profile picture and that is what this is all about a damn profile picture. I never knew that the partner controls the profile picture of the other partner
JEREMIAH: But see if people would open their eyes they would see the real truth
JEREMIAH: You want to show people the bruises you got but what about the bruises I got including the slash in my hand from a knife and I was recording it
CARMELA: I say I conspired to kill u please tell.. I only said I said Ill have a gang of people to show u how to treat a lady.. if that’s conspire to kill then I guess?? If u want me to show the truth I will jeremiah but after that just post on your page and leave mine alone on yours u can say whatever it is u desire.. I’d block u but my phone won’t allow me to at the moment.
JEREMIAH: Or how about you tell them how you walked out of the hospital in Jacksonville because they would not give you pills
JEREMIAH: I asked you numerous times if you’re sending people after me and you said yes
JEREMIAH: And you just texted me said that cops called you about our fight on here that was a lie
CARMELA: Oh!! And the fight now is because u got a gun and I don’t trust u. You already attempted that with me so please be straight. I told u I’d work on things but not with no gun.. also time limits.. also being called names.. also not havin to worry about all my stuff being burned or broken.
CARMELA: I’m not dumb I know why u got it
JEREMIAH: I already told you I would get rid of it
JEREMIAH: But talking about guns let’s talk about the one you were hiding for one of your friends who use the gun to kill somebody else and there still an unsolved mystery in Portland. Watch How soon this comment gets delete it
JEREMIAH: Funny how you deleted that same comment like 3 or 4 times already today cuz you don’t want people to know the truth but now all the sudden you’re leaving it up good
JEREMIAH: Oh so you delete my comment where I said you deleted the gun comment 3 or 4 times already today because you don’t want people to know the truth
JEREMIAH: And again you delete my comment about how you keep deleting the comments about the gun
JEREMIAH: If you’re not guilty then why are you deleting comments
CARMELA: I didn’t delete I swear I didnt
CARMELA: I have nothin to hide
JEREMIAH: Okay if you have nothing to hide then tell them the truth about the gun you were hiding for one of your friends and then you gave it off to your son’s girlfriend’s dad
JEREMIAH: And don’t you dare lie about it or I will go back and get that screenshot where you texted me about it
CARMELA: that gun u tried to shoot me with.. had it not been for the back door while u we’re closing the bedroom door I’d be dead right now.. don’t forget I have gods protection. Ur making up sh!t that u have done to me but turning it around saying I did. I’m asking u to please leave me alone.
JEREMIAH: No now you’re lying about me trying to do that you are no one to lie about things just to make yourself look better and I will not take responsibility for that one because that’s all a lie at least I have the proof of what I’m saying
CARMELA: I got another chance at life and ur not taking it from me..
JEREMIAH: Another chance at life? You mean like lying to my kids non-stop the way you did for the last 3 days and lying to me on a daily basis the way you have done for the last year and just like my profile picture this morning I changed my profile picture to just a picture of me and you freaked the hell out. It shows how softly I have to tread with you. It shows how you control me
JEREMIAH: I had my profile picture changed to me and you way before you did. You kept yours as yourself and you changed yours numerous times to just yourself but if I do it I’m so horribly wrong
JEREMIAH: I can go back over the last 6 month and not even count on one hand how many times you changed your picture to just you
CARMELA: Lying to ur kids?? So because I was taking Malachi and river out after walking three days 6 plus miles to try and make it so we have food and I’m at the mall and don’t want to video chat in front of my kids cuz I know I’m gonna get yelled at I lied?!
JEREMIAH: I’ve tried to get you to talk to me in messages and you refused
JEREMIAH: No my messaging my daughter saying you’re going to call back and you never do and that happened numerous times
JEREMIAH: Because my daughter wanted to talk to you because she was so proud of what she had helped with
JEREMIAH: So I deserve public humiliation?
JEREMIAH: Look correctly because I’ve been trying to talk to you in messages and on the phone and you refused both
CARMELA: And then get yelled at like I’m worthless? The yelling is so loud it’s peircing.. it radiates though my head and stays there for hours.
CARMELA: Please leave me alone
JEREMIAH: The only time I get loud is because you will not allow me to talk you think you have to be the only one talking
CARMELA: Just go on ur own page
COMMENTER 1: So slamming the car door on your wife’s legs is not abuse? Sounds like you were knowingly doing that.
COMMENTER 1: And it shows a lot when you cut her out of your engagement picture. Your head games are real.
JEREMIAH: She waited to stick her leg in the door until I was already closing it
COMMENTER 1: And if she wants to break her sons phone that’s her prerogative how f**king dare you put your hands on her like that. You were aggressive enough with her to put finger bruises on her. It’s her kid and if she wants to break his phone that she pays for, so be it.
JEREMIAH: Terry stop taking one side of the story and running with it I’m the one who had to pay for the phones
JEREMIAH: Get the full facts before you assume
COMMENTER 1: I’m just reading what you yourself wrote “you grabbed her from behind to stop her from breaking her sons phone”. That’s the facts right?
COMMENTER 1: Even if you did pay for his phone you still shouldn’t be putting hands on her like that.
COMMENTER 1: Why did you delete some of your posts?
CARMELA: No no he did not pay for that phone I did
COMMENTER 1: He’s your son and you have every right to do what you like with that phone. He had no rights to grab you that hard to where he left bruises. And of course he deleted his post about it.
COMMENTER 1: I’m sorry if he’s calling you nonstop I would not answer just to be called names and say it’s all your fault.
COMMENTER 2: I’m sure he hasn’t paid for many things. ?
CARMELA: I didn’t see it. I’m sorry u have to see this.. I bought all my phones except one because he broke 6 phones in 4 months. 3 iPhones 6 1 iPhone 5 1 galaxy s7 and some phone called blue I didn’t even get 24 hours with.. I payed for all those phones.. with…See More
CARMELA: Malachi’s phone I bought for his birthday.. I had to hide it because I was freakin scared he’d get upset but thankfully when he found out he didn’t.
COMMENTER 2: [Carmela] it’s his child like mentality. If he doesn’t get what he wants right away he freaks out and has a temper tantrum. I can’t see what he’s saying to you but I’m sure it’s more of him playing victim like he always does.
And let me guess I’m sure he’s probably called you about 100 times today.
COMMENTER 2: Oh my lord why should you have to be afraid to buy your own son a present for his birthday.
COMMENTER 1: I can see Jeremiah going through mad phones. Ella he can block all of us we still will stand behind you.
COMMENTER 2: Amen to that [COMMENTER 1]. Slamming a car door on someone’s leg just because they want alone time? How immature is that? And I’m sorry that’s straight up intentional, physical abuse.
COMMENTER 3: we are here to stand with you no woman should ever have to go thru hell prayers up for you to stay strong and do what is right for your self and your children
COMMENTER 2: Lol the coward has gone through and blocked us one by one.. well he’s had me blocked for a while because the truth hurts.
JEREMIAH: You’re here to stand with her like you always do with All My Ex’s you guys do nothing but go after people in my life and my exes just to get dirt so you can bash me and that is Cyberbully
COMMENTER 2: Um will someone remind Jeremiah that support isn’t cyber bullying. Also telling the truth isn’t cyber bullying either. Sorry. :/
COMMENTER 1: And we have never talked to any of his ex’s. He needs to get his facts straight.
COMMENTER 1: That’s okay he can’t handle when someone stands up to him he just blocks. ?
CARMELLA’S AUNT: it needs to stop . you are toxic together. both of you. leave each other alone. how much drama do you think we all need. you have 7 kids between you. stop for their sakes… you never even liked each other it shows
JEREMIAH: Maybe you should stop being so 2faced then we would listen to you but you tell me one thing then tell her something else
CARMELLA’S AUNT: you both have problems i want it to stop for both of you. and I’m not two faced. unless you call caring for both of you. then in your mind thats two faced..your life affects so many because you put everything out there and all who care have to walk around with it in their hearts and minds that isn’t love
JEREMIAH: If I remember correctly you straight up told me that your niece would never do anything like the stuff I was saying she does and then you turn around and told Carmela that things are her fault so yes I would call that Too Faced
CARMELLA’S AUNT: any thing you both do to each other is wrong
CARMELLA’S AUNT: its always negative
CARMELLA’S AUNT: fault meaning choice
JEREMIAH: Oh well I guess I’m just going to have to go back and screenshot the comment you made about your niece would never do something like that
JEREMIAH: I keep screenshots for a reason so people can’t lie
CARMELLA’S AUNT: jer i wont debate with you you both are wrong. . and I’m not lying its how you perceive evrything
JEREMIAH: I have messages from you that say straight up that it is my fault and if you want to lie then I will post them right here
CARMELLA’S AUNT: go for it
CARMELLA’S AUNT: your actions are your fault same for her. its not a he did she did, who cares its wrong for both of you
JEREMIAH: I have kept quiet and not post it screenshots for so long because I was not going to stoop to her level with the s*** but now but you guys want to believe everything she says I think it’s time I start posting
JEREMIAH: What’s good for the goose is good for the gander
CARMELLA’S AUNT: take a nap
JEREMIAH: No I’m not taking a nap I’m blasting these ss all over Facebook just like she did
CARMELLA’S AUNT: ok if it makes you feel better
JEREMIAH: Sure will just like it makes you feel good to tell her to stay away from me like you’ve been doing in every argument for the last year and considering you’re a Christian that p!sses me off and it gives me even more reason to hate every f****** Christian out there because they’re nothing but hypocrites
CARMELLA’S AUNT: i just want happiness for both of you together or not
CARMELLA’S AUNT: and the fighting to stop for everyone
JEREMIAH: Do you want happiness for both of us together or not? That’s a lie because I have plenty of screenshots when you said to stay away from her and then you praise her for leaving every time
JEREMIAH: You know the last week I have done every single thing in my power to try to keep the stuff positive. She demanded that I give her my login information to my Facebook and then I did she demanded that I delete Snapchat and she told me if I delete Snapchat then I can have her login information to her Facebook so I deleted my Snapchat but to this day she has refused to give me her information
COMMENTER 1: I can see what he’s saying from another profile. Tell him from me but he has been at this all day long and that he needs to stop and go spend time with his children.
JEREMIAH: I’m the one who has been begging her to stay positive not negative I’ve plenty of messages to prove it and I’ve plenty of messages where she told me she’s not going to be positive she does not want to be positive
JEREMIAH: She says the reason she doesnt like it here it’s because the house isn’t done well even with my kids here I have spent so much money to get the house pretty much entirely done this last week and I even printed out 25 8×10 pictures by her wish and I spent hundreds of dollars on picture frames by her wish and it means nothing
JEREMIAH: She kept promising me to call me and she promised my kids over and over and over that she would call and she never did so yes I am going to be upset
CARMELLA’S AUNT: please jeremiah calm down you both are upset give it time to mellow. .there is a lot going on . give it time to sort out
CARMELLA’S AUNT: are your kids with you now
JEREMIAH: I paid Jordan’s rent 2 months ago and never got a thank you for it I paid for her ticket to go out there without her asking and I gave her $300 cash and then I deposit it another 200 some dollars into her account 70 some dollars one time a hundred some dollars next time
JEREMIAH: So for her to say that I give her nothing is pure b******* and pure lies
JEREMIAH: And sad thing is you guys take her side her word and believe everything
CARMELLA’S AUNT: i don’t know about any of that been busy with my own problems and life.
CARMELLA’S AUNT: you don’t listen to me either
CARMELLA’S AUNT: im not taking either side as you both are wrong
JEREMIAH: I asked her to compromise plenty of times and she straight up told me and Steve and Dawn and plenty of other people that she does not know how to compromise that it’s going to be her way or she’s leaving and guess what I did it because I love her and no I do not listen to you anymore after I found out that you’re telling me one thing turn around and tell Carmela & other thing
JEREMIAH: And you want to say you don’t take sides but look at your comment right here
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JEREMIAH: I could go back through and find plenty of them from you like that
JEREMIAH: And that is the main reason I don’t listen to you
CARMELLA’S AUNT: i appreciate any effort you have done. and jeremiah any thing you do to better you is bonus for you and your precious children. never grow weary in doing well. .
JEREMIAH: Actually to be honest with you things were going better between me and her when I wasn’t trying to do what was right
CARMELLA’S AUNT: your kids and her kids are suffering because their parents can’t play nice
* If you use any of the above in another post, please link back. I made subtle grammatical and spelling changes throughout so I will know! 😉