TEEN MOM 2 Kailyn Lowry and Barbara Evans have custody issues in sneak peeks

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While the Teen Momiverse quaked from the bombshell news that Kailyn Lowry is pregnant, MTV rolled out a set of previews for tonight’s new episode.

In this latest batch of Teen Mom 2 sneak peeks we’ve got Babs talking custody of Jace, Kail and Javi trying to figure out who will have their son on holidays, and Jeremy Calvert revealing his engagement news to Leah Messer:

KAIL LOWRY

Javi Marroquin and Kail meet up for lunch following mediation to work out who will have son Lincoln during the holidays. Things fall apart quickly as Kail says she wants to establish a tradition for Christmas. Javi wonders how committed Kail will be to that plan after she finds a new boyfriend. When Kail responds by informing Javi that her “kids come first” he asks, “They do?”

The hurt for both of them is palpable as Lowry says she’s leaving.

JENELLE EVANS

The seemingly never-ending custody battle between Jenelle Evans and Barbara Evans over Jace marches on as Babs discusses a recent deposition.

Barbara: My lawyer asked Jenelle about Nathan [Griffith], and Kieffer [Delp], and Gary [Head], and Courtland [Rogers] and David [Eason] and about her house… I’m worried about her future… I’m worried about her jobs… Her money… Her relationship…

The job thing is huge. She went to school, she graduated on the dean’s list and she doesn’t even pursue that part time. So if this show’s all gone tomorrow how are you going to afford this big fancy house and all this life of luxury that you live?

If it doesn’t go her way she’s going to be devastated. If it doesn’t go my way Jace is gonna be devastated.

LEAH MESSER

Leah is beyond excited to reunite with daughter Addie after she’s been gone with her dad Jeremy Calvert for a week. When they meet up for the exchange things seem kosher until Jeremy asks Leah if she knows about his engagement to Brooke Wehr.

Leah: I didn’t know that. Congratulations. I’m happy for you… I mean as long as you’re sure that that’s the person you want to spend the rest of your life with then…

Jeremy: I’m pretty happy

Leah: You definitely should marry that person but you don’t want to think it rationally.

Jeremy: I’m just glad I’m with somebody that Addie likes.

CALVERTMESSERPEEK

Leah: Yeah, but marriage is a very big commitment that you need to make sure is what you want for the rest of your life for someone that’s going to be around your child… That’s not an irrational commitment at all. You’re a very irrational person.

Jeremy: How do you figure that?

Leah: Because you don’t think before you do something.

Jeremy: I don’t think me and you have any room to talk about being irrational.

Leah: We were very irrational-that was the biggest mistake of my life.




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  • Amanda_56

    I’m so glad Javi said “they do”?

    • Esmeralda Negaard

      Right! I can’t stand Kail, I hope Javi takes her to court for custody.

      • Yup, I said it

        Javi’s getting exactly when,he signed up for and he’s getting as good as he gave. Javi helped Kailyn make Jo’s life miserable. Javi talked shit,and acted like Jo’s was some deadbeat. He should have been taking heed that one day that can be him. Now Kailyn has turned on Javi and is doing the,same to him as she did to Jo, now he wants to 😢 about it.

        • Alisson Leech

          When Javi was doing that, people kept saying he was next!!

          • Mia Winters

            Doing what saying Jo should work and pay his child support for his child?!

            • Alisson Leech

              No. Being nasty like not wanting Lincoln out with Jo, Kail, Vee, and Isaac. Promoting parental alienation between Isaac and Jo. Javi was no angel.

        • LoLo

          In his defense he was believing in the person he was in love with. Many young couples totally believe everything being told to them. No wants to believe the person they are with is lying. If that was the case we would not have any break ups or divorces. He was in love with not just her but Isaac & now Lincoln. I don’t fault him for trusting & believing. I am glad his eyes are now open & hopefully has matured & learned.

          • Yup, I said it

            Umm, that’s no excuse. He knew she was cold, and cheated and used isaac as a pawn against Joe. If Javi thought,he was so,special he was gonna change Kailyn’s core behavior then he’s an idiot. Leopards don’t change their stripes.

            • LoLo

              How do you know what he knew or how he felt? Who said he thought he was special & would change her? It’s very easy to sit at home & watch then make judgements. If life were as simple as being able to know how someone is from the start we would not have such a high divorce rate. He was young, fell in love & we don’t know what stories she sold him. Most people behave & only show good in the beginning. Back when he met her she was not as vile from what we saw. She has taken a nose dive the last 2 seasons.

              • Yup, I said it

                IT WAS ON THE SHOW!!!! NATIONAL TELEVISION!! She cheated on Joe while living in his house and then cheated the boy with Joe in the shower. Excuse that all you want but the information was there. If Javi chose to ignore it or not believe it that’s was his bad choice but the info was out there and no secret.

                • LoLo

                  How do you know he saw that? He said he saw her cheat on Jo? She was young, they were young. How many people under 23 have cheated on their boyfriend or girlfriend at one time? Plenty. So are they to NEVER be in a relationship again? He was supposed to take that incident & not give her a chance when maybe she was telling him differently. Her cheating on Javi is one thing, but bringing guys into their home, around the kids is on a different level. He could not have known that she would do that. Just because someone cheated when they were young does not mean they will do it again just as well as people who have never cheated could. You can’t tell the future. But, any guy that’s with her now needs to take a pause & think. Even if they’ve never seen the show, the fact that she’s 24 with 3 kids from 3 men should make him run.

        • Mia Winters

          How did they make his life miserable saying he needed to pay child support?! He never called him a deadbeat they were just wondering why a man with a child dosn’t work. MTV money is not going to last for ever. The thing was child support and Jo was not wanting to pay enough for Isaac but he didn’t want to go to court because he knows they would probably make him pay more than even Kailyn was asking for! And the judge would be like why don’t you have a job?! Most dads on the show have a job except for Joe, Gary and Jenelle’s boyfriend I forgot his name

    • barbinop

      Me too. Javi should sue for full custody

  • Leah’s Cold Canned Soup

    Not that I give a $hit but Chelsea definitely should not be on the show anymore if she isn’t willing to show everything. Why should this b7tch be paid $500,000 a year to eat peanut butter sandwiches, go to the gym, and talk about Adam and his lack of child support. If you want your life that private then leave the show for good. I honestly will be glad when this whole franchise ends.

    • ChelseaHouskasEyebrows

      Uh oh what happened??

      • Leah’s Cold Canned Soup

        I just feel like its bull that they get to say what they don’t want filmed. There’s pretty much no usable footage of Chelsea anymore. If you want that much privacy get the phuck off tv

        • Brie Mode

          L
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        • Liz

          Oh yes!

    • ameliaBedelia76

      agreed but same thing with kail, she has been shutting the cameras out all season. This is their job & they are saying “no” good luck finding any other job that will allow you to do that

      • LoLo

        While I agree, I can’t blame them for taking the check. It’s production that let’s them get away with it. Kail refuses to film & they probably threw more money at her to make her film. The cast knows they have the upper hand.

    • Ali.P

      I completely agree. That goes for all of the girls. They get paid so much to be one this show. Definitely shouldn’t get to pick and choose what they share and don’t share. Want a private life? Awesome, get off tv, moron. Want to keep getting the checks (as these girls do) then quit complaining about “privacy”.

    • TrashTV

      Chelsea is the smart one and the one that does not need all the drama and attention. All their contracts allow it obviously.
      Jenelle is also refusing to film some bits of her life, basically they all do. MTV and Chelsea are just very clear about it while maybe not all the other girls and guys are.

      • Mia Winters

        If Chelsea is so smart why does her dad still handle all her shit for her?! She does not even know how much Adam pays in child support but her dad knows?! Wtf?! And he is still making appointments for her telling her when to go and handling all her shit for her so yeah Chelsea has it pretty easy but her segments are boring asf

    • Facts

      Same can be said about Jenelle. Se only agreed to film this season if she got a better edit. So what you see with her isn’t what’s really going on.

      • LoLo

        Jenelle’s scenes are some of the worst acting ever. You can see the wheels spinning in her head before she talks. I love how she thinks because drugs are in her past that she’s is a great mom now. Every time she doesn’t get in trouble for 1 month she claims that she’s doing good for so long. She thinks getting a house & land makes her mom material. Not the fact that she has yet another man living with her.

        • Leah’s Cold Canned Soup

          She has some serious psychological issues. Not tryin to play internet psych doctor but Id be willing to bet she has abandonment issues due to her father bailing and very little self worth.

          • LoLo

            I would agree & understand that to a point. I’ve dealt with friends who go through that. Even my own niece has that problem. But, at some point you have to put your kids first. The fact that she can see herself over the years & read what people say about her & she still doesn’t self reflect & straighten up. She’s doing to her kids worse than what was done to her. I feel so bad for those sweet little innocents lives. Time flies & maybe one day she will realize how much time she lost with them because she was too worried about having a man.

    • Toni

      lmao @ peanut butter sandwiches (though my first thought was sushi)

    • Mia Winters

      I agree! And she dosn’t even do shit! I was shocked when she didn’t even know if Adam was paying child support or how much he pays! She had to ask her dad! Like girl why don’t you know if he is paying child support but your dads knows and keep track of that but you don’t know shit! Daddy is still doing everything for her she needs to take care of her own shit! He even tells her when her appointments are and shit!

      • Leah’s Cold Canned Soup

        Chelsea is a joke, always has been. I don’t understand the love for her. Daddy and her trophy husband will be taking care of princess for the rest of her life. She probably only has a job for the show and to save face. I bet when the show is over she will decide she wants to be a stay at home mom.

  • melinehclassy

    Leah happy you’re finally sticking up for yourself to these baby daddies that Gang up on you.

    • ameliaBedelia76

      how are the daddies ganging up on her? and in this clip it isn’t about her sticking up for herself. She is questioning if Jeremy should get married to Brooke

      • melinehclassy

        She’s always walking on egg shells around these guys. So what? That’s a normal ex wife response. At least she wasn’t fake

        • TrashTV

          Hm.. “walking on egg shells” has a totally different meaning in my book. Not what I have seen.

    • FYO

      Leah has yet to prove herself to be a responsible adult, much less a responsible parent. It’s not that her kids dads gang up on her, it’s that they have a problem with how irresponsible she is. She’s the opposite of a model parent. When is the last time you saw Corey or Jeremy yelling at the kids to shut up because it’s interrupting their texting-while-driving? So yeah, the problem is Leah.

  • Anna

    Meh I don’t think Jenelle’s honestly going to have to worry about money. She’s white trash trainwreck gold, someone else will scoop her up when Teen Mom ends. Hell she’ll probably be a fricken real housewife in about ten years, none of them are talented either but they keep getting paid.

  • MayJay

    Why does Kail want Lincoln for Christmas? Isn’t she an atheist? If Javi is a Christian then I feel like he should get first dibs on Christmas and Easter, since they actually mean something to him.

    • Brie Mode

      Considering Christmas was originally a pagan holiday, Id say she gets a pass on that one.

      And pretty sure the only fairytale the kids are even concerned with is Santa Clause and getting presents.

      Please tell me you’re trolling.

      • cali

        Bri Mode maybe Christmas was once originally a pagan holiday (I didn’t look it up) but today Christmas is celebrated bc it was the day Jesus was born! Everyone in the US knows that! So stop trying to make it a pagan holiday, it’s not going to happen.
        And so what if the kids only look forward to opening presents and Santa Claus? Isn’t that how we all felt as kids?! Lol

        • FYO

          Umm, I know tons of people who celebrate Christmas, using it as a holiday to show appreciation for family (and friends), and having nothing to do with Jesus. For that matter I know church-going Christians who don’t even put up Jesus decorations on Christmas. So yeah, I dunno wtf you’re talking about. LOL @ “Everyone in the US knows that”….

          • cali

            Ok calm down my point is that it’s not a pagan holiday

            • FYO

              It’s funny you want to make a point that Christmas isn’t a Pagan holiday, yet you admit, “maybe Christmas was once originally a pagan holiday (I didn’t look it up)”. Perhaps you _should_ look it up _before_ saying anything, then you would know better.

              Many pagans celebrate Christman, just not as a celebration of the birth of Christ.

              • cali

                The truth of the matter is that in this day in age no one correlates paganism with Christmas! What don’t you get??
                Furthermore, getting back to the article, Kailyn is an atheist and doesn’t celebrate Christmas so why should she feel bad that she wouldn’t have her son on Christmas Day?

                • Bruja

                  Says you.

                  I know many people that do especially when they have to explain their religious beliefs over and over to people.

                  • Mia Winters

                    Why are you lying lol

                    • Bruja

                      I don’t know who the phuck you’re calling a liar, “lol”, but I’m 100% sure you don’t know one goddamn thing about me, so kindly carry your ass with that crap.

                      Psst, you’re about 2 weeks late for the conversation, dumbass.

                • AncientDruid

                  Maybe she celebrates Saturnalia.

            • Dana

              It was a pagan holiday. Many people who aren’t christian celebrate it today.

          • Bruja

            This.

            I’m not Christian, and I put up a tree and holiday lights,

            My daughter is Wiccan and puts up a tree and holiday lights.

            I know many people who don’t celebrate the season because of Christ but for other reasons.

            Any search done using the words “origin of Christmas” will clearly show it was indeed a Pagan holiday long before the birth of Christ, as no one even knows the birth date of Christ.

            http://www.history.com/topics/christmas/history-of-christmas

          • Mia Winters

            You can show appreciation for your family any day why DOES it HAVE to be on the 25 if you are not Christian?! Then why would the day matter to you just choose a different day like before or after no big deal or biggie right?! Unless the 25 really means something to you

            • FYO

              It doesn’t take rocket science to figure it out. It’s a nationally recognized holiday with school out-of-session and almost everyone off from work. That certainly makes it easier for families to get together, especially those who have to travel to do so. So NO, Dec. 25th doesn’t have to have ANY meaning for families to celebrate. It could easily be a matter of convenience and that’s so obvious it’s pathetic you have to be told.

        • Brie Mode

          Jesus and God are about as real as Santa Clause.

          lmao. You’re being delusional. I stated FACTS. You have a storybook written by some rando that was re-translated and re-written to fit what whoever was in charge wanted. Just because people have been conditioned to believe that God is real and Christmas is for really truly a Christian holiday does not make it true.

          But I guess you also believe that “Jesus” was a white dude even though he’s from the Middle East and you believe everything you read on the internet, too, don’t you?

          Hell, not only is there NO definitive proof that Jesus ever existed, there’s also NOTHING that 100% says his birthday is December 25th. PLEASE do your homework.

          • Bruja

            *nods*

            It was declared, not a thing of fact.

            The first recorded date of Christmas
            being celebrated on December 25th was in 336, during the time of the Roman Emperor Constantine (he was the first Christian Roman Emperor). A few years later, Pope Julius I officially declared that the birth of Jesus would be celebrated on the 25th December.

            For those interested, this is a neat read:

            http://www.lone-star.net/mall/main-areas/xmas-not-first-choice.htm

            • Brie Mode

              THANK YOU.

      • MayJay

        I’m pretty sure I recall Kail saying that she only put up a Christmas tree for the cameras (after somebody commented on it in regards to her book kind of bashing religion in her book), so she evidently doesn’t care that much about the “traditions” of the holiday.

        • Brie Mode

          Okay, I can see that argument then, maybe.

          But either way, religion, or lack thereof, should have no bearing on who gets him on those days. Easter, I don’t really give 2 shits about other than the fact that I buy 50 lbs of Cadbury Mini Eggs (I hate chocolate and sweet stuff, but I’ll go to town on some Mini Eggs, holy shit).

          Christmas is celebrated by so many people- not just Christians. I just don’t think that the fact that one of them is more religious than the other should hold any weight on this. It’s a special time for families to be together- regardless of what they believe (or don’t believe) in, and families who DO put stock in it care about those things. Doesn’t matter their beliefs.

          That’s my point.

          Thank you for at least responding to me civilly, and I apologize if I sounded like a bitch. I was just trying to bang out a reply as quickly as possible and my keyboard kept messing up lol

          • LA79

            “But either way, religion, or lack thereof, should have no bearing on who gets him on those days.”

            This doesn’t make sense. It’s a religious holiday. “It used to be a pagan holiday.” Not really…you are misrepresenting this. Some aspects of the celebration (e.g. fir trees) were common in other pagan traditions…THIS CHRISTmas holiday is based on Jesus Christ and his birth. Someone that is religious will obviously care more about it than someone who sees it as an excuse to decorate their house and give their kids gifts.

            “It’s a special time for families to be together- regardless of what they believe (or don’t believe) in, and families who DO put stock in it care about those things.”

            Kail threw her family away..I don’t see why she suddenly cares to have everyone together. Javi, if he is Christian, puts more stock in the holiday than Kail, who just does it because everyone else does it.

            • Brie Mode

              I’m not trying to advocate for Kail by any means. I think she’s a bitter, vile, selfish, narcissistic nasty piece of garbage. BUT, her kids do seem to be at least somewhat decently taken care of. Kail isn’t bouncing from one place to another like Jenelle and Leah and she’s at the very least on okay terms with Jo and Vee and seems to be able to successfully co-parent with them now.

              I just think that trying to use religion as a reason to give one parent priority over the other is ridiculous.

              • Mia Winters

                Oh please Vee dosn’t like her lol you can tell and Vee looked annoyed at her last visit and Kailyn was rolling her eyes at Vee. I agree with them Why can’t Kailyn have them on a different day?! Why does the 25 of dec mean so much to her?!

                • Brie Mode

                  Well yeah. I’d be mad too if my baby mama kept calling me to come get our son because of issues with her other baby daddy. Javi has been nothing but nice to her, and she’s being an over dramatic bitch for no reason. Oh wait. It’s cuz she got caught cheating and she’s mad about it.

                  Javi owns that house. I’m sorry, but Kail should be the one to move out of it. Javi should sell the place out from under her. Then again, my fiancé went through something similar with his ex-wife while he was deployed so I have no sympathy.

          • LoLo

            I felt Javi was being super reasonable. His family celebrates on Christmas Eve as does my husbands. Then she could have him on Christmas day & she couldn’t accept that. I loved this when my kids were little. It made us never have to choose which family we would go to. We new eve was with his, day was with mine.

            • Brie Mode

              See that’s fine, and that’s what I was trying to say. I think. Lol

              My family has always done presents on Christmas Eve after dinner and then stockings and a big Christmas dinner on Christmas Day.

              Now we do the same, but then we do “Santa presents” for my daughter the next morning, but they’re all unwrapped and set up under the tree. That practice might be dunzo though since my kiddo is 9 now and has known that Santa isn’t real for a couple of years.

              lmao she told me, “Mom… I know Santa isn’t real. But don’t tell BBE (her aunt) that I know cuz I still wanna get my Santa gifts”

              • LoLo

                My husbands family always does dinner on the eve with gifts. We do presents in the morning & then to my family or our house for early dinner & gifts with the rest of the family. But, when I was growing up we used to open one gift on the eve. It was always pajamas so we would look good in our morning photos. We hated that! My mom used to wrap all of our gifts except the ones from Santa, those were unwrapped. I wrap all of my kids gifts otherwise they are just yelling over each other & it goes by too fast. They are grown now so now we just do a big brunch, exchange gifts & then have dinner. My kids did the same, they pretended to believe longer as they thought the gift count would be decreased.

      • Amanda_56

        It actually has ‘Christ ‘ in the name. It might have adapted pagan traditions but Christmas didn’t start off being a pagan tradition.

        • Brie Mode

          Yes it did. Please do your homework. “Adapting Pagan traditions” – literally that’s where a Christmas started.

          Either way, religion really has nothing to do with a holiday that practically everyone besides like Jehovah’s Witnesses celebrate. It holds special meaning for people from all different walks of life and faiths. That should have no bearing whatsoever on their decision as to who has Lincoln then.

          God is as real as Santa Clause and no matter how you spin it, Christmas is about family and being together.

          I don’t like Kail, but they need to work it out to where one of them has him Christmas Eve Night & XMas morning and the other gets him in the evening. And they alternate that every year. Neither parent should have him solely to themselves those days. It’s selfish and wrong.

          • Yourfutureprof

            This is more interesting than teen mom. I want you to write a dissertation on pagan holidays and how they were celebrated. You could start a wordpress site. I look forward to reading it.

        • FYO

          What you’re really saying is you’re clueless about the origins of Christmas and instead of doing your homework, you felt going on the internet and making yourself look stupid was the best choice.

          Way to go, great job!

  • TrashTV

    Jesus God Leah, telling your ex marrying him was the biggest mistake of your life isn’t very nice to start with but ehm.. I’m curious why she doesn’t consider cheating on both her husbands with the same guy her biggest mistake.

    • Yup, I said it

      I would say (allegedly) abusing the “pillses” and her frying her hair would be her biggest mistakes.

  • Lauren

    Barbara has very valid concerns. Jenelle couldn’t handle 3 kids on her own if she didn’t have a guy around but yet she continues to have more kids. But I don’t think she’ll get custody back. It’s about Jace and it would be detrimental to him to rip him from his home 8 years later just because Jenelle decides she wants him. at least right now

    • FYO

      The intention was never that Barbara keep Jace for ever. The agreement has always been that once Jenelle gets her life together, Barbara would give him back without hassle. In reality, Barbara has become too attached to Jace and simply uses any excuse not to honor their agreement. Dr. Drew has had to remind her several times it’s best to give Jenelle and Jace a chance. The truth is Jenelle isn’t perfect but she has come a long way and deserves the chance to have her son. If it works out, great for Jenelle and Jace. If not, Jace can eaily go back to Barbara at any time. That’s what’s best for Jace but Barbara refuses to do it because she doesn’t want to be lonely and feel unneeded.

      • Lauren

        I hear what you’re saying but I see it a different way. To uproot Jace from where he’s been living his entire life and send him to Jenelle’s & then if it doesn’t work out to send him back to Barbara’s would be far more emotionally damaging. I think they need to work out a better custody arrangement to where Jenelle gets him more but he’s still primarily at Barbara’s. And then when Jace gets old enough to decide whom he wants to live with then he can choose.

        • FYO

          The theory that it’s `far more emotionally damaging` when a child is `uprooted` is untrue in situations where both the parent(s) and the caretaker(s) are still easily accessible. Studies have shown the contrary, that it often strengthens the childs bonds with those people, and increases their feeling of security. We have family friends who went through something very similar to Janelle/Jace/Barbara. In the end, the court ordered that the child and full custody be transferred back to his mom. The grandparents did get a visitation schedule though. It took a while for her kid to acclimate but now everything is fine. Her kid is doing well socially, doing well in school, has no signs of emotional damage, etc. As a matter of fact, the relationship between them all is better now than it has ever been as long as we’ve known them.

          Most kids are resilient. They’re not these fragile little flowers that need to be over-protected. From what I’ve seen, family court favors biological parents who are gainfully employed, clean, and stable. Barbara having Jace was always meant to be temporary, until Jenelle meets those requirements, at which time a transition to give Jace back should occur. Barbara uses Jace against Jenelle, threatening to keep him from her if she doesn’t do what Barbara wants. Barbara claims everything she does is for Jace but it’s clear she does a lot out of her own selfishness and interests. Dr. Drew has called her out on that a few times now and her reaction has stayed the same .. She cries, admits she knows Jace and Jenelle need to be given a chance, and Jace is not her child. She’s even admitted to being scared to give Jace back because Jenelle might give her a taste of her own medicine and restrict her visitation or take it away entirely if Barbara isn’t doing what Jenelle wants. That says _a lot_ about what Barbara actually thinks about her own behavior in all this!

          • Lauren

            Well, like I said, I see it a different way. I don’t think it would be beneficial for Jace because even though Jenelle has come a long way there’s still a lot of chaos surrounding her, it seems. And I don’t think Jenelle could handle 3 young kids on her own even if her and David do or don’t work out. We all watched her freaking out when Nathan was in jail & she’s screaming her head off in front of him. But agree to disagree. :)

            • FYO

              I know what you’re saying but I believe Jenelle’s problems these days all revolve around Barbara holding Jace hostage and using him against Jenelle. Dr. Drew pointed this out and Barbara had to say was that it’s hard for her and tried to make it about her. But yeah we can agree to disagree. Whatever happens, I just hope they can figure it out cuz it’s obvious Jace feels pulled in different directions.

              • Lauren

                I agree. You can tell Jace just says what he thinks Jenelle or Babs wants to hear. They need to stop yelling AT each other and talk TO each other.

  • Me too

    I love barb but she needs to stopppppp , just Say it… you fell in love with Jace and you don’t want to give him back. Period. Do a 50/50 deal w jenelle and be done with it. Storyline is getting old!

    • Facts

      Give back an innocent child to a “mother” who already left her 1 month old twice? And pawns her other child off to whom ever will take him? Not to mention give him back to a “mother” who lives with an accused woman beater? Yeah sounds like a good idea cause the storyline is getting “old” according to you.

    • Toni

      Agreed. She’s more attached to him than he is to her and as much of a mess as Jenelle is (completely), Barb over does it with the manipulation and the guilt with that kid. I cringe when she’ll ask him repeatedly “What did they say about me?” or the other gem “Mommy just stayed in her room all day, didn’t she?” It’s gross and uncomfortable.

    • FR

      Jace is not a two piece sectional sofa that can be split 50/50. Having him divide his already VERY complicated life between two homes, which he has already been doing, is detrimental enough to his emotional and physical wellbeing. Literally ripping him away from the only home he has ever known is cruel. He will suffer horribly. He will regress for sure (fairly typical adjustment issues manifest in children with bed wetting, problems eating/sleeping, aggression, etc — all of which get them in trouble with mommy’s boyfriend who is often annoyed by such inconveniences and sees a non-biological child as a rival. ) Not only that, but children who live with men who are not their biological fathers have a incidence of domestic abuse and death THOUSANDS of times higher than children who live with bio family alone.

      If Jenelle is so committed to Jace’s wellbeing, she would LIVE
      CLOSE (as in next door or down the street) to him and DISRUPT HER OWN LIFE (it’s not like she’s doing anything other than lying on her back, spreading her legs, having cameras follow her on trips to the beach, etc) rather than disrupt his. He has been through enough. He needs the only stability and attachment he has left with Barbara despite her many serious flaws.

  • barbinop

    I hope the judge awards full custody of cute little Jace to Babs. She’s stable and has been the one constant in Jace’ s life. Children need a routine and stability and I don’t think Jenelle can provide that. I wish Babs could get custody of Kaiser too. He seems emotionally neglected

    • Kail’s Fake Ass

      I hope so too. Judges tend to side with the mother in most cases which is what worries me. But, jenelle hasn’t pursued custody until now so hopefully that makes an impact on her case. I also find it incredibly selfish that Jenelle moved away from jace as far as she did, if she really cared to try and get jace back all these years she would have moved closer to him to help Babs and transistion him into living with her. I mean, of the 472 times she’s moved around she couldn’t move closer to jace?? No, this is jenelle. She can’t move closer to jace because her job..no, school..nope not that either. She has no reason. That’s just crazy to me and should say enough about her “wanting Jace back”

  • LA79

    “They do?” Javi is the real MVP this season.

    And of course, just like Kail, when she is faced with the truth about herself, she just waddles away.

    • Chu ♪♫•*¨*•.¸¸♥

      “waddles away” OMG lololol

  • Mimi

    “I should have Lincoln for Christmas because he should be with his brother.”

    What about his brother’s sister? Or is this just for kids Kail popped out of that thing she calls a vagina?

    • Yup, I said it

      You can’t use logic with an idiot. Kailyn’s logic was the dumbest thing ever. That’s why people usually don’t have multiple baby mommas/baby daddy’s because its separates the kids. She’s an imbecile that thinks she an Einstein.

  • LoLo

    I bet Kail was so quick to agree to 50/50 because that gives her more time with her new guy. She can send both kids to their dads & be free. Then when it’s her day to have Isaac she sends him over to Javi’s. I know that Isaac needs time with Javi & his brother but could you imagine if Jo & Vi broke up & Jo wanted to send Isaac to Vi’s for the night. Kail would flip. I love that Javi is exposing her & he’s the only one showing real emotion about the demise of their family. She just moved on, no big deal.

  • Chu ♪♫•*¨*•.¸¸♥

    LOLOLOL Kail commenting on Javi’s small shirt and if it fits him! LOL her shirt is small and is riding up her backside!! what a joke!

    • Yup, I said it

      And her paints looked painted on that deformed fake ass.

  • MellyT

    Why is Javi being painted as a saint? He broke his vows first. In sickness and in health. I lost complete respect for him the way he treated Kail during and after her miscarriage. He treated her like garbage, and told her he blamed her for losing the baby. He can apologize all he wants. It doesn’t change his words or the way he made Kail feel at one the most vulnerable times in her life. He should have been there for here, supporting her. Not blaming her. There were many times Javi was shown being very controlling and manipulative. Javi is not without fault.