REPORT Jenelle Evans’ ex Nathan Griffith suicidal, planned to move to England

Jenelle Evans Nathan Griffith Kaiser custody tweets

Teen Mom 2 stars Jenelle Evans and ex Nathan Griffith’s heated custody battle for son Kaiser is starting to look like a political campaign as both parents continue to say negative things about each other online in an attempt to win over public opinion. In the latest installment, a “friend of Jenelle’s” has revealed that Nathan is suicidal and even agreed to sign over full custody of Kaiser, but later changed his mind.

A lot of the “he said/her friend said” drama is playing out via Real Mr. Housewife, who has provided two more updates since Nathan shared his account of the events leading to his arrest for domestic violence last week. In the first installment, Nathan updated everyone on his custody battle with Jenelle. Here are the highlights, including some quotes from Nathan:

• Jenelle says she is OK with supervised visits but then doesn’t respond to Nathan’s mother’s requests to pick up Kaiser.

• “She wants to proclaim me being this horrible father and that she doesn’t trust me, yet she’s living with a convicted felon who just was sentenced to jail for 60 days.”

• Nathan suggests Kaiser’s health and well being are at risk when he is with Jenelle and Nathan: “All the marks and bruises and all the sicknesses and strange illnesses Kaiser has have never been with me, only with her. Like the hand foot mouth disease, the rashes, the blisters on his butt, the scraped up knees, the bump on his head – I can go on and on.”

• Nathan thinks that since Jenelle doesn’t work she should spend more time with Kaiser instead of putting him in daycare.

• Nathan says that Jenelle’s claims that he misses out on his visits with Kaiser is based on one weekend “when I asked my Mom to watch him so I could go out with my girlfriend.” As evidence of how great a dad he is, Nathan points out how much fun Kaiser appears to be having in photos he posts of them together online.

• In addition to the daycare issue, Nathan also has problem with the time Jenelle spends away on trips. “Aren’t there weeks at a time she doesn’t have Kaiser because she has him at David’s Moms while they go on these extravagant vacations?” Nathan asks. “The woman is a book of contradictions.”

• In conclusion, Nathan says he is confident things will go his way eventually given Jenelle’s track record. “She’s going to end up shooting herself in her foot again like she did last time,” he says. “All we have to do is wait.”

Unfortunately for Nathan, he appears to be the one with multiple bullet holes in his feet of late — a point that Jenelle’s friend brings up in his/her rebuttal. More on that in a second…

Prior to the next official campaign spot with Real Mr. Housewife, Jenelle tweeted and deleted some responses to Nathan’s accusations. That was followed by the new article and then another Twitter conversation with Nathan’s friend Josh, who was none too happy with what Jenelle’s friend had to say:

[NOTE: Nathan’s Twitter ID is @GroundLevelUp]

JENELLE: @GroundLevelUp and you do know that you just violated the custody order once again by that article ? Let’s keep adding more and more.

JENELLE: @GroundLevelUp the sickness he has is called CROUP right now, infact David has it and so do I now. And he’s not a felon lmfao

JENELLE: @GroundLevelUp if you called and asked about Kaiser maybe you would know that? You told us you wanted to give up your rights as a parent

TWEETER: @PBandJenelley_1 @GroundLevelUp stop airing ur sh!t on social media

JENELLE: Im not, he is. TRUST ME there’s a lot I can say but that’s all saved for court. I’ve had many people try asking me what’s going on.

TWEETER: @PBandJenelley_1 that article sounds like a bunch of bull ?

JENELLE: If you guys knew all the details, you would be scared and see I’m acting as momma bear. He can come see him and he knows this but he refuses

Prior to railing against Nathan, Jenelle reached out to Real Mr. Housewife about responding to the Nathan article:

JENELLE: @realmrhousewife where are the questions? Let’s get this article written up. I have screenshots.

JENELLE: @realmrhousewife I’ve been waiting on him to talk sh!t about me lol

Real Mr. Housewife: @PBandJenelley_1 I sent u a dm

Jenelle Evans Nathan Griffith together

Fast forward a few hours and we have a brand new article with “Jenelle’s friend” who provides some startling new information, including Nathan being suicidal and that he is planning to leave the country! (Unfortunately for Nathan, those plans will probably now have to wait until he clears up his current legal situation.) Here are the bullet points:

• Nathan’s mother never reached out to Jenelle to see Kaiser, she merely said that if they needed help watching him to let her know.

• Jenelle’s friend points out that David is not a felon, “unlike Nathan that has 5 pending and 2 of those are felonies.”

• Nathan allegedly “talked about committing suicide to Jenelle’s mother, director, and even (Teen Mom 2) producer Larry, who everyone knows of.”

Nathan called Jenelle’s mom and her director, who were at dinner, and said that he wanted to end his life or was thinking about it.. Jenelle’s mom then called the Myrtle Beach police and had them go check on him. They went inside and no one was there, but they found a bunch of empty liquor bottles all over his house. This scares Jenelle as a mother.

• Nathan moved back in with his mother and claimed to be getting better, but was soon out drinking again with his friend Josh right after revealing he wanted to end his own life.

• Nathan texted Jenelle and David letting them know he wanted to sign over custody of Kaiser:

They were shocked but said “let’s give this 24 hours to make sure he’s not drunk and actually wanting to do this.” Well, the next day he said “Where can I sign the papers?.” Jenelle told him she’d have a new custody agreement written up first for supervised visits then they could look into his rights as a parent. She sent over the agreement and received no response from Nathan for days and then he just suddenly wanted to take Kaiser out of the blue and claimed he was all better again.

• Jenelle’s friend shared screen shots of a text message conversation between Nathan and David to back up the claim that Nathan was willing to give up custody:


NATHAN: Dude to be completely honest it might be best if you keep him. I’m so unstable and I’m actually crying writing this. I know you don’t care but this weekend is a bad weekend. I’m sorry.

DAVID: I have been there myself dude, I know what it feels like trust me.


DAVID: Hey whats up we are at dinner

NATHAN: Does Kaiser need me? Are you good? Treat him like you’re own ok. I think I’m moving to England.

NATHAN: If SheDevil needs me to sign over my rights I will

DAVID: Yea he is good. You should just do whats best, that’s all I know

NATHAN: This is best. I’m glad you guys have a good life. Jenelle needed a daughter. Just let me know what you need me to do

DAVID: Are you talking about signing over the papers?


NATHAN: Yes. I’m pretty sure I’m moving over to England next month too

• Jenelle was advised by her attorney to “keep Kaiser out of harm’s way” but she did let Nathan know that he could see Kaiser if the visitation was supervised. Otherwise, he would have to wait until their next scheduled custody court date on January 4. “Nathan hasn’t came to see Kaiser one time or hasn’t even asked,” the friend says.

You might recall that Jenelle’s friend claims that Nathan’s friend Josh went out drinking with him — this after Josh was allegedly supposed to stage an intervention. Josh has since taken to Twitter to offer up his response, including his own text message screen cap from a conversation he claims is with Teen Mom 2 producer “Kristin” about Nathan’s well being. Here are those tweets, including his interactions with Jenelle:

JOSH: Hey @PBandJenelley_1 , I’ve been in Vail for the past week. If Nate was out drinking, it damn sure wasn’t with me. Get your facts straight.

JOSH: By now you should know not to drag me into your lies @PBandJenelley_1

TWEETER: perhaps she thought you & Nate are on the outs & you’d lie for her ?

JOSH: just because I don’t like someone doesn’t change my character, I’m not a liar.

JENELLE: then don’t call up my director and tell her how concerned u are for nathan and act like you care when u don’t.

JENELLE: u were never a friend to him… he even messaged David asking if u use him for the cameras… just stating facts bro

JENELLE: lmfao just like u said nathan was acting mentally unstable for the cameras and u asked if this was all an act for tv …

TWEETER: to be fair, it doesnt say it was last week. It just references that you were supposed to do one.

JENELLE: actually back the beginning of November to be exact

JOSH: aye bro, just to get more facts straight for you, your “producer” called me while I was in Cali… Again, stop lying…

JENELLE: how am I lying ? Did u talk to her on the phone or not ? Lol you did, no lie.

JENELLE: and she’s a director not producer

JOSH: I just stated that I talked to her after she called me… You’re the one who just said I called her? Get it together

JENELLE: omg oooops my bad I’m sorry I don’t see her call log ???

JOSH: I called this too… Y’all are pathetic [With the text message conversation screen cap below]

Josh Jenelle Evans MTV producer text message

JENELLE: keep adding onto the story, thought u were a friend

JOSH: always acting like you know things when you’re truly clueless

JOSH: you’ve been out of the picture for awhile boo

JENELLE: uhm… ok… lol

JENELLE: how am I clueless? Lmao you’re too funny bro

JOSH: keep adding to the story? At least I keep things consistent, you’re all over the place bro. Try thinking before you speak

TWEETER: keep telling them bs fake stories Jenelle ! Why dont u have Creep David get a job 2 provide 4 u & #Trapbaby

JOSH: she doesn’t want a man with a job, a real man wouldn’t deal with her BS. She likes to have power

TWEETER: This is why she shouldn’t have more kids.

JOSH: I wonder if MTV paid her to have this child as well

TWEETER: The rumor was $25k per Kid. Not sure if that’s valid.

JOSH: not even half of that…

Good lord, keeping up with the Jenelle drama is A LOT of work! Hopefully, that burden will be shared soon by MTV as the brand new season of Teen Mom 2 kicks off Monday, January 2 at 9/8c.

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  • Meme

    All for ratings! I wonder what else is going to “pop” up before the premiere show! Lol Smh ….idiots!

  • Nedly Mandingo IV

    Like Nathan is one to talk about who is best to be around Kaiser. Nathan just got busted for abuse on his girlfriend. He’s roided out big time and has a little anger management issue. To be honest, that child and the other ones would be better off in foster care.

    • LoLo

      None of them in my opinion are fit parents. Nathan lost custody of his first child. David lost custody of his son. Jenelle doesn’t have custody of Jace. There’s a clear pattern here that at some point a judge felt they were not good enough to keep their kids or get their kids back. These kids are screwed all the way around.

      Being that Jenelle didn’t have Jace. One would think she would want a better guy in her life. She sure knows how to pick them. It drives me nuts when for 6 yrs we’ve heard her say Barb “won’t give Jace back”. If she wanted Jace she could go to court & put it in a judges hands. She doesn’t because she knows no sane judge will reverse it. She’s done nothing to show she’s a caring, involved mother. When Barb offered Jenelle to take Jace for a week so she could go visit her other daughter. Jenelle said no, she had Spring Break. It didn’t dawn on her that she’s a mother, Spring Break is for high school & college students. Not adults with 2 kids. If she really wanted Jace she would have jumped at the offer.

  • Kate

    Interesting that she claims that her and David both have croup- it is commonly seen in children fifteen and under (and the cases with fifteen year olds are rare). It’s rarer still for this illness to present in adults, so seeing as this affects approximately 15% of children under 15, what are the odds that the medical marvel that is Jenelle with her multiple mystery ailments AND Uncle Bad Touch have it as well? Croup is not very contagious to those with developed immune systems (ie people over 15) and is only contagious for a few days at best.

    My sister had croup a few times growing up and nobody else in my house (me at five years older than her, parents and her twin brother) got sick.

    • Meh

      Knowing Jenelle, she’s probably withdrawing from whatever drug she’s been on before she gives birth

    • LoLo

      My youngest son suffered from croup until he was around 8. He was hospitalized 4 times when he was under 5. As he grew up he would still get a croup like cough & trouble with his airways but it was not croup. Like you said the chances of an adult having it is VERY rare.

    • c8h10n4o2

      Shooting meth can make you cough, too. (Thanks, Intervention for expending my knowledge!)

    • em

      Oh yes, THAT, I thought that was funny/ sad cause it was such a stupid claim too.
      Diagnosed by DrGoogle probably. She is making herself look so stupid. Especially as she has had a “medical training”. I’m thinking she just showed up just enough to pass a simple test.
      She just blows up everything and twists everything.


      She knows stuff. You know because she went to a rip off for profit school and got a certificate

  • Jenn

    They’re both awful and shouldn’t be around any children.

    Is Kaiser really in daycare? I can see a child his age going to preschool a couple of half days a week, but if she’s shoving him in daycare regularly so she doesn’t have to deal with him…

    Seriously, Kaiser and any future children of Jenelle’s need to be adopted out to stable people looking to adopt. She and all her soul mates should not be parenting anyone.

    • LoLo

      When I was home with my kids I had friends who took their kids to daycare from the time they were babies even though they did not work. I couldn’t do it. I understand when they are around 3-4 maybe putting them in 1/2 days or if you go back to work. But, I could not put my kids in full time while I was home. I worked in daycares for many years & there are really good ones but kids not need to be there unless you are working or for them to interact with other kids as they prepare for elementary school. In this case, Keiser might be better off being at daycare then with her. I feel so bad for women who cannot have kids & Jenelle keeps popping them out only to do wrong by them.

      • Charla

        Kaiser is definitely better off in daycare than being around either of his parents. It’s his reality and probably the only positive constant in his life. On another note, I never understand why ppl bring up people who can’t have kids? It’s usually nature trying to prevent the passage of bad genes, not bad parents.

    • Lauren

      I do believe he’s in daycare full-time . It’s been shown on the show & it’s always Jenelle saying because she’s so busy & needs a break while the next scene is either her on the couch or eating out at some restaurant.

      • Jenn

        I really hope it’s a nice, clean daycare and that Kaiser is getting his emotional, educational, and social needs met because Lord knows that’s not happening with Jenelle.

        On one hand, any time away from her is good for him, but on the other hand it just really grinds my gears that thanks to be a reality “star” Jenelle doesn’t have to work, an opportunity a lot of mothers don’t have (myself included), and shoves her kid in daycare because parenting is too difficult for her. And on top of all that, she’s pregnant again.

        • Emmy

          She might have a rough pregnancy? Would not surprise me with her medical history of problems.
          Is Dave working at the moment?
          I had to hire a babysitter for half days at the end of my second pregnancy.
          I absolutely refused to do that full time tough.

          Maybe she should stay out of social media brawls with her ex and his friends as she is pregnant for her sake and the child’s sake.
          Repeat after Chelsea: ‘So I guess Nathan doesn’t like us, thats okay’. And you are done.

          • KSK

            Her “medical” history??? You mean fake made up BS? Seems to me it was determined NOTHING was wrong with her.

          • SEYEBROWZ

            Dave isn’t working. He lives off Jenelle like the other losers she’s dated.

            Her only “medical problem” was dr shopping for opiates. No dr in N Carolina area would give her any so she tried the big city aka NYC


        Jenelle’s just too lazy to look after her own child


      She doesn’t even have a job! Why does he even need daycare? She should put him in PRESCHOOL at 3

      • Kerry

        It IS preschool I believe

  • Guest

    I love that he refers to Jenelle as SheDevil.

  • LoLo

    Poor Kaiser. I feel so bad for him. Jace has Barb. The new baby will probably, hopefully be treated well by David but Keiser has no one in his corner. They both lie so much about each other or maybe they are telling the truth & they are both as bad as they say about one another. Jenelle sure picks terrible men to be around her kids & procreate with. I remember when she was with Nathan she would let Nathan’s sister or mom watch Jace when it was her time to be with him. Now, she lets David’s mother keep Keiser for periods of time. She is way too trusting of people being around her kids. I would normally say if a mom isn’t working the child should be home with her until they are of age to go to pre-school for 1/2 day. But, in this case Keiser is probably safer at the daycare & not dumped in a crib all day.

  • opinionsorfacts

    Nathan saying that she’s neglecting kaiser bc he had hand foot and mouth made me fall out of my chair lol! I’m not a jenelle fan by any means but that’s hilarious! My child had hfm and it’s definitely not bc I’m a neglectful mom. Lol Nathan is so stupid

    • Pattipandi

      Yea but he also mentioned constant cuts, bruises, blisters and rashes. I can’t say I see those on kids who are cared for properly.

  • Renee L

    Starcasm: “Nathan suggests Kaiser’s health and well being are at risk when he is with Jenelle and Nathan”. I think you mean David. I know Jenelle has had a slew of men but pretty sure he’s talking about the latest flavor of the year.

  • ameliaBedelia76

    WE all know that “jenelle’s friend” is Tory that she brough tback into the fold so Jenelle can sell the story & the made of text messages

  • stacy

    i stopped reading when she said that both her and David had croup like Kaiser. Adults cant get croup, you moron. You just have a cold.

    • c8h10n4o2

      That was going to be my comment. How do two adults get croup???

    • Pattipandi

      But guys, she went to school to be a “medical assistant”. She knows stuff.


      ALSO hand foot & mouth disease? I’ve only known 1 child to ever get that. Maybe she should bathe & watch her child and he wouldn’t get diseases, cuts and bruises

  • Em

    I don’t think many people who are really very unstable write coherent messages like that.
    ‘I’m glad you guys have a good life’
    errrr… having a very hard time believing that Nathan wrote that in the way it is presented now.
    He calls her SheDevil, him a felon but suuuure, he is sooo happy his son will be in good hands all of a sudden.

    We have heard all this before. We were made to believe Babs was an alcoholic, lied, had a very bad health (could die soon) and that she won’t let Jace go cause she is afraid she will become lonely. BS.

    Nathan has been in a bad spot for a bit by the looks of it but she is dragging this way out of proportion.
    Oh honey… you have no idea what you are doing. You will loose both your sons and your daughter once they are old and smart enough the way you are going. They will avoid you like the plague once they realize what you have done to them and their childhood.

  • Jessica

    Nothing says mature adults like posting your issues back and forth on social media….. attention whores. Both of them.

  • Catelynn’s Strip of Hair

    I was not about to read that novel

  • Jessi Dett

    Seriously all u see is what the show shows u and u ppl are truly ignorant if u don’t know her personally or were there when all the conversations were made then no one has the right to say anything. As far as the comments made about she should HV more kids how dare u ppl. R her kids abused unloved treated like crap no not that we know of and I’ve known ppl who really shouldn’t HV kids so for who said that ur pure evil.

    • Kate

      Oh, hey, Jenelle.

      • Bobby Brown


    • Pattipandi

      Please go back to school and get your GED.

  • Jessi Dett

    Its a show n no one is perfect n we don’t see everything why the negative hateful crap talking on someone u don’t know and with not all the facts. I’m not saying a few things I’ve read I didn’t like but how do we know what’s true what’s not. Just remember we don’t see everything a lot is edited before saying mean evil hurtful things if u HV kids what r we teaching our kids if we say bad not nice things about someone.

    • Pattipandi

      Erm, we don’t need to watch the show to read the trash that goes on their social media or news reports happening in their actual life while not filming season #534 of teen mom2.

  • Chris8908 Moore

    How come defacs won’t get involved I mean really these kids are subjected to to much because of this show. When it comes down to it all MTV cares about is ratings. Not all the moms are bad but a couple of them are. They do not need to have kids they care more about the money and they love the drama. I don’t get why we have to sit here and pay taxes and make these people rich. Some people have real problems. these people only problem is how to make they show better with more drama. Nasty is what it is. I don’t see how someone can’t do something to stop this before these kids grow up and become damaged from all this.

  • sysmjp

    Can’t wait to see Jenelle fighting with Nathan and David on Twitter

  • sysmjp

    So Nathan is reaching out to Barbara for help now? He must have been swimming in the sauce.

    • Pattipandi

      Unless it was filmed for the show and instigated by producers..

  • barbinop

    Nathan went to Bab’s for advice????? That’s a good one?

  • KSK

    I seriously have NEVER seen anyone LOVE DRAMA more then Jenelle!! Well OK Farrah. It’ll be interesting to see what happens when shes not getting paid for it anymore. David, dude GET A JOB!!!