Why was Jenelle Evans in the hospital? Was it ovarian cysts, heroin, failed alien abduction?

Jenelle Evans in the hospital - two timelines

For those of us who virtually follow the day-to-day life of Teen Mom 2 star Jenelle Evans via social media, the last few days have been nothing short of mind-blowingly confusing. The 20-year-old reality star apparently checked herself into a hospital on November 23, and since that time has been basically absent from the internet. Her brief, vague, and sporadic updates have done little to quell all of the speculation and information gathering by her fans and detractors, which has created a mish-mash of rumors including a car wreck, heroin overdose, and even dog murders. (I’m not kidding! This is Jenelle remember.)

Anyway, it was all so confusing that I felt I would take the day to organize it all into two separate timelines for those slightly less dedicated Jenelle followers looking for the Cliffs Notes version. The first timeline is the “official” timeline of events according to Jenelle Evans herself, her fiance Courtland, and her Facebook fan page admin Sarah RaeAnn. The second is a cobbled together timeline of everything else, with entries allegedly from Jenelle’s sister Ashleigh, the sister of the mother of Courtland’s daughter Jordan, and even a patient that says she was in the room next to Jenelle in the ER!

November 11: Just after returning from her trip to New York City for Teen Mom 2 After show tapings (which Jenelle missed due to being hospitalized for her ovarian cysts), Jenelle and Courtland get caught up in a custody dispute with the mother of Courtland’s one-year-old daughter Jordan. Jordan would eventually wind up back with her mother, Taylor Lewis, but not until after a heated dispute that included Jenelle and Courtland being accused of kidnapping. The reason Taylor was able to get Jordan back is because Jenelle had to reenter the hospital with further complications stemming from her ovarian cysts.

November 14: Jenelle receives a diamond ring from Courtland but writes in an explanation on Facebook, “NO IM NOT ENGAGED, the ring was just a present from him to me. that’s all.”

November 19: A rather rough looking Jenelle and Courtland participate in a live Ustream chat during an episode of Teen Mom 2 during which Jenelle announces she and Courtland are engaged. She states that there is a very important reason why the two got engaged so quickly, but she can’t reveal what it is. Her and Courtland’s appearances spark speculation she may be using drugs again.

Jenelle Evans' family sister Ashleigh mother Barbara Evans son Jace and her brother

November 22: Jenelle tweets a photo of her entire family (above), including mom Barbara Evans, sister Ashleigh, and her brother, along with the caption, “#TheEvansFamily lmao all of us together and not arguing for once yayyy! :D”

November 23: Jenelle seems to be coming down with a severe illness that affects her ability to talk regularly, tweeting, “God I’m so sick I haven’t been able to have my own voice in 3 days. 🙁 it’s still gone”

November 23 (later): Jenelle tweets “Lets cough up a lung today Jenelle…. Ugh….” That will be her last tweet for a couple days as she reportedly checks into the hospital.

November 24: Jenelle’s fiance Courtland Rogers begins frantically tweeting his concerns for her, asking Jenelle to please let him know how she’s doing.

omg i have never needed u so bad @PBandJenelley_1 please god call or let me know something !! i am soo worried about u…and cant get to u

im trying to find a ride so i can b there by yourside threw this babe..i promise..i am waitin on a taxi to call me back…i am tryin so hard

i cant stop worrying about u @PBandJenelley_1 pleaseeee call and let me know some news…please call baby pleaeeee….i love u…CALL ME !!

@PBandJenelley_1 i am so worried about u !! and i have no way to get to where u are..omgggg…please call me i am so stressed…please call

@PBandJenelley_1…i am about to be on my way there.. hang in there for me babygirl…..i will see u in a sec….CALL ME….i am so worried

@PBandJenelley_1 i posted this for prayers…wow…f*** attention right now she is not doing good…i wish i could tell yall more but i cnt

jenelle is ok..she is at the hospital…she is awake now !! . good signs. i cant say y she is there. i swear it has nothing to do with drugs

and she has been in allday…she needs prayers..this is not a drug issue..she is in there for something else..something personal.

November 24: Courtland suggests he has a “huge surprise” for Jenelle when he tweets, “i miss u @PBandJenelley_1 cant wait to get to see u tomm…i got u a huge surprise for u !!! i hope u are feeling better i love u babe!”

November 25: Jenelle appears to get access to the internet for the first time and tweets, “Im doing good.. I got a few things going on with my cyst.. Maybe surgery. Please b supportive and help Courtland get threw this. Love y’all” followed by: “The dr Just let me know that I will b here a few days for surgery on my cyst and that everything else looks good Im using hospital Internet. Please keep me in your prayers.. Ashleigh is making stuff up on me so just avoid her.. She is a sh!tty sister that tries to get attention. I love u baby @courtyb11 can’t wait to get back in your arms again..I’m ok don’t worry. I kno u are probably freaking out but I’m ok.. I lu”

November 25: Jenelle posts on Facebook, “I’m doing good.. I got a few things going on with my cyst.. Maybe surgery. Please b supportive and help Courtland get threw this. Love y’all The dr Just let me know that I will b here a few days for surgery on my cyst and that everything else looks good Im using hospital Internet. Please keep me in your prayers..”

November 26: Jenelle’s Facebook fan page admin Sarah RaeAnn does a Ustream video chat in which she reveals that Jenelle is in the hospital because one (or more) of her ovarian cysts burst again, and that doctor’s believe her cyst issues may be related to the method of birth control she is using (Which was Implanon as of June of this year).

November 26: Courtland tweets, “i talked to jenelle and she will be home wednesday from the hospital!! I CANNoT WAIT!!! i love u babe @PBandJenelley_1…shes feeling better”

November 27: Sarah updates Jenelle’s Facebook page with similar good news. “UPDATE: Jenelle is getting released from the hospital either today or tomorrow !! Courtland has been by her side through this and she’s doing much better. She is in less pain now and says she feels “Normal” again. Her Cyst [sic] are still bothering her but, she says the pain is bearable. I’ll let y’all know anything else that happens !!”

That gets you all caught up with the “official” timeline of events. Now, here is all the crazy stuff that has surfaced elsewhere over the last few days:

Ashleigh Evans posts on Facebook about Courtland Rogers totalling fiance Jenelle Evans' car

November 24: @ExposingLiars69 tweets a screen cap (above) of a Facebook post made by Jenelle’s sister Ashleigh claiming that Courtland wrecked Jenelle’s car, totalling it. (Something Jenelle’s ex Gary Head seems particularly happy about.)

November 25: @JenelleBombs posts a screen cap of a Facebook post made by Megan Manship claiming she was in the hospital room next to Jenelle’s and that Jenelle was in for heroin withdrawal. The post reads, “Jenelle was in the ER yesterday for heroin with drawls. I was in the room next to hers. She sounded like she was in so much pain… But I was too so I was praying on both of our behalves.” I did a search and found Megan’s Facebook page and sure enough she was in the hospital at the same time with a severe case of food poisoning.

November 25: Kristen Lewis, the sister of Courtland Rogers’ ex (and mother of his daughter) Taylor Lewis, posts a lengthy diatribe on Facebook accusing Courtland of being a drug addict who refers to Jenelle simply as “teen mom” and believes he doesn’t have to work now. @Classy_CarmenM shared this screen cap:

Courtland Rogers' baby momma Taylor Lewis' sister Kristen Lewis says he is a crackhead

November 26: Jenelle’s former roommate Allison seemed to back up the heroin rumors in a brief Q&A on Twitter:

ALLISON: @JenelleBOMBS lol this stuff is all so funny. The things I could tell u guys. Atom bombs

TWEETER: u can at least tell us if some of the stuff is correct or not

A: play 21 questions

hmm LOL. This could go on all day. She looked like she was on heroin on ustream. Does she use dope??

A: yep addmotted it to me in NYC first day

does she do heroin? Have u actually seen her do it?

A: yes I have day before she got her tonsils out

How long has she been using?

A: pretty much like a month after I moved that’s how she dropped weight so fast

I knew it!!!! I’m a recovering addict so I can tell. Was she dope sick in NY? Or was it really her “cysts” or does she even

A: she was probably withdrawing but she brought suboxens

did Courtland get her on heroin or was that her own doing ?

A: she was doing it before him

Does She Shoot IT Or Snort It?? And Was She Really Snorting Xanax In That Pic Or Was It “Pixie Sticks” Lmao

A: xanax and she snorts it has shot it tho

November 27: @JenelleBombs shares an email reportedly from Jenelle’s sister Ashleigh about someone hacking her Twitter account which reads, “She probably hacked my Twitter or had some of her buddies to. She’s in the hospital due to an heroin overdose or something like that, She’s in a psychiatric unit which is why courtland isn’t there with her. She thinks she’s “THE b!tch” no KARMA is “THE b!tch”  (Ashleigh apparently made other claims on her Twitter account before it was “hacked,” but sadly I wasn’t able to uncover all of what she tweeted.)

November 27: A Twitter user found a listing for the trailer that Courtland and Jenelle have been living in and posted it online. The link was retweeted by @Classy_CarmenM, and Courtland later tweeted that because of the link, his dogs are dead! His (since deleted) tweet: “@Classy_CarmenM guess what….the cops are looking for U….because somebody broke into our house that we keep our dogs at and killed em”

November 27: @Classy_CarmenM shares a conversation that is allegedly with a close friend of Jenelle and Courtland’s neighbor, who didn’t even know it until today. The neighbor writes that the “surprise Courtland got for Jenelle is an silver/gold Honda,” and that Jenelle’s car is indeed totaled. Also, the neighbor claims that Jenelle “is in detox for observation.” (I realize this one is a stretch as far as reliability, but it has added to the mystery so I felt I should include it for reference.)

Did Courtland Rogers total Jenelle Evans' car VW Jetta?

NOVEMBER 28: @ExposingLiars69 tweets a screen cap (above) of a photo posted on Facebook by Jenelle’s sister Ashleigh Evans that appears to be Jenelle’s wrecked VW Jetta along with the caption, “Am I really a liar Jenelle?” For comparison, here is a photo Jenelle tweeted of her “Fresh new Jetta” back in May:

Jenelle Evans new VW Jetta in May 2012
* In case you were wondering why Jenelle isn’t driving the white vehicle seen on recent episodes of Teen Mom 2, that’s because ***SPOILER ALERT*** she crashed it into a light pole in a shopping center parking lot back in October of 2011.

UPDATE – Courtland has fessed up to the car wreck, but says Jenelle was not there and the car isn’t totaled. You can read what he had to say about it (as well as why Jenelle is in the hospital) HERE.

UPDATE – Jenelle is out! Click here to see her first few tweets and photos after leaving the hospital.

UPDATE – And here is the detailed account of exactly why Jenelle was in the hospital(s) and what happened while she was there from her Sulia post:

I was in there for 8 cysts on my ovaries. Right one as big as a golf ball. The ambulance came to my house and got me. After going to one hospital I had to be transferred to a bigger one 4 hours away from my home. Long story short I had immediate surgery to get rid of those cysts and also had lung work done do to smoking out of kieffers TOXIC wooden pipes. Still having to go back to chapel hill next week to get more lab work done.

I think that’s about it for now. I absolutely have no idea what to believe, and I’m guessing the MTV cameras haven’t been anywhere near any of this so we may never know the real truth.

  • Maria M.

    Who. The. Hell. Gives. A. Shit.

    • tiff

      obviously. you. for. reading. the. article.

  • From all this cyst stuff I’m a little concerned she has PCOS or endometriosis, both which can be super painful (I have endo), require surgery, and I’d believe it if she were using drugs to self-medicate. Many doctors are super ignorant about endo and they do think that lots of women with these chronic pain conditions are just drug seekers when in reality they hurt every single day.

  • carsyn

    I fully beliDrug¡he went into hospital for drug issues and was held for a psych eval, it all adds up.and yes she does have ovarian cysts, and uses that to get prescribed painkillers, hence why she was in hospital in New York (she flew they’re this time instead of driving and nobody wants to go through security with drugs right?). There are so many sources, that aren’t getting paid, that provide details if you can catch them before the admins or jenelle herself remove… That girl says she is medicated for bipolar disorder but she is so up and down every other hour that something still isn’t right… Dun Dunn Dunn! Drugs!!

  • tanya

    Wow! Talk about horrible grammar and NO punctuation on Kristens FB post! She sounds no better than they do! White trash…..all of ’em!

  • Ashley

    I could totally believe it’s drug related. She was completely high on her Ustream the night she announced her engagement (like I said in another comment). Also, why would Courtland even think to post “It’s totally not drug related I swear” way before anyone came out with those stories. She’s dropped an astounding amount of weight. On Ustream she attributed that with something traumatic happening. But come on.

    • Ashley

      I agree, I think everything adds up to her being in the hospital for something drug related. She, and most of the other people involved, are all such a mess. It’s beyond pathetic. I would say that if she is in the hospital for drug related reasons I hope this finally turns it around for her, but I have little faith that she will be able to do that for herself and her son (who is seemingly non-existent in all of this drama….sad Jenelle doesn’t seem to care about him, but I hope he is being kept away from this disaster of a situation).

    • Courtney

      I really hate to say this but she not only looks exactly like Diane Downs but she is really starting to act like her too! She cannot feel empathy for others and only cares about herself and superficial things. She is in such a downward spiral that I just don’t know if she will understand how serious life is until its too late. I really pray for her!

      • Jean

        THANK YOU! < From the person that originally posted she looked like Diane Downs LOL

        • Courtney

          I didn’t intend for it to be a lol comment but rather a serious and disturbing observation. Since recently watching a special about the Diane Downs case ALL I could see was Jenelle! The way they both talk about their children, as more of toys that are fun to play with but they have no attachment or care to actually take care of them/protect/raise them. The way Jenelle was so serious about seeing her “idol” was so selfish, ridiculous and immature that its disturbing! She has a SERIOUS problem and I really hope she gets help!!!

  • Olivia

    she’s got weddingitis irreversibilis

  • K

    Jenelle LOVES drugs. End of story.

    • maybe if jace had his name legally changed to weed, she would love him too

  • ohmygeez

    Simply put, they’re all non-spelling, idiot crackheads who should stay the hell off Twitter and Facebook.

  • LexiconD1

    5150, perhaps?

  • Nicole

    The thing I don’t understand is she admits to being atheist, yet asks for prayers? Ummm?

    • Jenny

      She does that a lot. I don’t think she knows what “atheist” means. I’m starting to think the word she’s looking for is ‘agnostic’.

    • I’m pretty sure she was only “atheist” for a minute for attention and to fit in with Kail. She isn’t smart enough to be atheist.

      • Brittany

        She offends me IMMENSELY with that BS.

      • During her chat during the teen mom episode before last, she said she was an atheist then as well. So she’s said it within the past 2 weeks.. pretty recent. I agree she doesn’t know what she’s talking about asking for prayers yet claiming atheism. Makes NO sense!

  • What I do not get is that they were so secretive about it being “cysts” until JE tweeted it. Why say its personal if it has to do with the cysts she has posted about too many times

  • Andi

    Trash – airing their dirty laundry online. Her sister Ashleigh sounds a lot like her… laughing about this Courtland guy totaling Jenelle’s car, saying “haha bitch you have no money & no car, I win!” WTF Plus the video Jenelle put on YouTube of her sister yelling at her baby… looks like they are both sh*tty moms. Makes you wonder what kind of environment they grew up in to learn such behavior.

  • WTF

    Wow, sorry starcasm but SHAME ON YOU for promoting this classy Carmen girl. I read your site daily and have always been a big fan but I can’t believe you would go as low as contacting Carmen and then using her in a story.

    CLASSY CARMEN is a horrible Internet bully who is literally obsessed with Jenelle Evans and her life. She spends every waking moment on the Internet harassing her. She creates YouTube videos spending hours editing footage from the show. She photoshops jenelles photos. She stalks through her and Courtlands Facebook pages reposting things that they wrote 2 years ago. She is a legit crazy. She has never met Jenelle yet you go to this lunitic for infomation?
    Last night a new low was reached when she posted jenelles home address and encoraged everyone to spread it around and go over there. I’m sure she would have been straight there if she lived in NC. She also posted the phone number of the hospital Jenelle is at encouraging others to ring and be connected to her room. Now whatever’s going on with her she doesn’t deserve this. Carmen is a crazy stalking b!’ch and YOU’RE promoting her insanity. Please everyone take one look at her twitter and see for yourselves.

    The integrity of this website is in question to me now. I’d love to hear your response.

    • Ashley

      I read “Classy Carmen’s” twitter, and she did retweet a link to a real estate website that listed the trailer Jenelle was living in, but I didn’t see anything where she encouraged people to go over there.

      • I’m far from a bully. All I do is point out inconsistencies in Jenelle’s various lies. I don’t use foul language towards her, I rarely tag her in anything and everything I post is fact – not rumor. How is this considered bullying?
        Furthermore, I really don’t spend “every waking moment” talking about Jenelle. I have a regular full time job, a husband, pets & a home to care for. I’m on Twitter maybe a few hours a day, if that. HEATHER, you’re the one who dedicates your entire life to blogging about various Z list celebs. Please grow up and don’t be a hypocrite. Also, that YouTube video took me a whopping 30 minutes to make. I didn’t obsess over it “for hours,” as you claim. Anyone with a laptop can easily make a YouTube video in no time.

        • Sam

          I don’t know any of the people involved: Classy Carmen, Heather, and whoever else. But if you don’t want the title as a bully and you only have a limited amount of time of twitter time, why have you taken it upon yourself to make it your responsibility to call Jenelle out on her lies on twitter. Why does it matter and why do you feel you need to be involved? She been accused of being a junkie and junkies lie thats what they do. She has obviously done a pretty decent job of destroying her own life and caused herself a great amount of pain. Do you really feel you need to add to it? And these online fights make you JUST LIKE HER. If you cant control yourself from getting mad and calling her out maybe its time to just shut twitter off and focus on other things, huh? All the attention you give it does make you come off as a little obsessed.

        • Yes, you are a bully and a creepy stalker.

    • 1) I haven’t photoshopped a thing. You can cross reference my posts to Jenelle’s and Courtlands for clarification on that. 2) I focus on current drama – usually not anything from “years ago.” 3) I didn’t post anyones address. I REtweeted a link for an old rental listing that was found on a public website. 4) HEATHER CLOUSE – I KNOW THIS IS YOU. Who looks “legit crazy” now?

      • I POSTED THE ADDRESS! Carmen retweeted what I posted and I found it via Courtlands tweets and his failure to turn off his location. No one stalked anyone. Shutup Heather.

      • lolclassy

        The pictures I have seen you post are not shopped, that is true. But WHY focus so much on this girl’s life? I know it is entertaining but since you do so much research on her it should be obvious to you that she is struggling with a horrible addiction and needs help. You literally post about her all day long. Instead of spewing hate all day long, why not focus on your own life?

        • I spend “all day long” focusing on my life and only a few hours, if that, focusing on the lives of others. Clearly, this is still HEATHER CLOUSE. I’m done. No need to defend myself to a hypocrite, you failed celebrity blogger, you.

          • lolclassy

            looool. you have called everyone on this thread that criticizes you Heather Clouse. hilarious. i’m not, but please continue to believe that she is the only one that is critical of you. you are crazy, end of story.

            • She seriously needs to get some psychiatric help.

      • Looks like she has a new obsession. HEATHER CLOUSE. Oops I must be HEATHER CLOUSE now too. Off to get a nose job. Tootles!

    • You’re just pissed because Starcasm got your “exclusive” before you did. Lmao.

    • lolclassy

      Totally agree. I know there is a lot of twitter hate for Jenelle, but this is seriously a whole new level of crazy. She literally posts ALL DAY about Jenelle. Some of the things she says are so hateful. I am NOT a fan of Jenelle by any means, she is clearly mentally unstable and its tragic how she pawned her son off to her mother. But to sit there all day long and post horrible things about someone who is obviously struggling with a heroin addiction is seriously crazy. Have some human compassion and go do something productive with your life, seriously. Your twitter is really sad.

      • You totally agree with YOURSELF, Heather Clouse? We all know you like to make multiple accounts in a sad attempt to prove your unfounded accusations. Wasn’t it you who called the wives of cast members on another show and told them you were sleeping with their husbands? And I’m the “crazy internet troll”? Lmao. Hypocrite to the max.

        • lolclassy

          ffs. again, i am not heather clouse. i am a random twitter user that was disturbed by your obssesion with a teen mom.

        • jujubee

          Omg get a life! Sorry your life sucks so bad that bashing others’ who dont give two shits who you are failed. Stop worrying about the lives of members on reality television!! Your life must be so awful! Dont pull the “i have kids and a husband” cause clearly they dont matter when you spend your time worried about what Jenelle is doing. Shitty mom Shitty wife.

        • Sam

          Wow. My name is for sure not Heather. If anyone disagree’s with you, you are just going to call them Heather Clouse? There are a large variety of opinions out there and if some of them happen to disagree with you that doesn’t automatically make it the same person everytime. If you look at other post on this site some of these people, including myself, have posted comments on other stories. You may try to point out someone else’s flaws and point out her lies and how crazy she is but just from these post alone, you have absolutely just put yourself in the same margin as her. Those who live in glass houses shouldn’t throw stones.

      • I highly concur with your post. Well stated.

  • Amanda Schneider

    I thought she was on the pill now because implanon messed with her bipolar medication? At least that’s what she said at one point. From what I hear the pill is supposed to help with cysts, but I could be wrong.

    • Jenny

      You’re right about her changing to the pill b/c she announced it on Twitter (as usual).

  • Jenny

    It’s obvious that Jenelle didn’t tweet or post on the 25th. Courtland did it for her because if you compare his posts on the 24th to hers on the 25th, you’ll see he made the same spelling error (threw instead of through) and used “b” for be (which I’ve never seen Jenelle do). Also he uses “y’all” which is a word Jenelle hates & refuses to use. She’s tweeted about it before, and he would have known not to use it if he’d been dating her longer than 10 mins. Don’t even get me started on the “Lu”. Jenelle has never used that. Anyone who follows Jenelle regularly can tell she didnt post any of that stuff on the 25th.

  • Jenn

    Anyone else get bored and stop reading?

    • Sarah

      Yes, I did, too!!!

  • Murphy

    All I want to know is–is Brody (the dog) ok??

    • amberc88

      yup all i want to know too!

    • WTF

      carmen put not only the dogs but everyone in her house in danger. if the dogs are dead, its her fault.

      • Again, The DOG IS NOT DEAD, HEATHER CLOUSE. He posted a pic of himself with the dog on Jenelles fan page hours later & today he’s posting about having someone take the dog. The DOG IS NOT DEAD for the final time.

  • ava

    Omg! this girl has serious issues she is a drug addict no matter what drug she is using. She doesn’t even care about her son. Plus she isn’t thankful for her mom! what would Jenelle do if her mom wasn’t there to support her and take care of Jace. She needs an Amber style recovery.

    • Amber style recover = jail, right? Because that rehab place Amber went to was a joke. She even said she did those pain patches while in there, chewed on them, and was more high than ever. But yeah Jenelle needs to doat least a few years in jail. She never really has to pay for any of her mistakes.. she gets away with everything and then just keeps doing drugs.

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  • Sarah

    Jenelle is developmentally stuck at the age of 13-15. No signs of an adult in her thinking, perceptions of reality and responsibility or judgement. No awareness of the roles and responsibilities associated with being an adult much less of being a mother. MTV plays a big role in her abilities to remain like a child because the money that she earns from the show shelters her from having to make the necessary changes that would bridge the gap between childhood and adulthood.

  • Uhhhhhh

    Uhhh, this person is seriously unstable. All of this is disturbing. Stalker status, for sure.

  • Tayla

    hahahaha carmen you just got served up – funny thing with people like her is – if Jenelle invited her to hang out or be her friend she’d be so quick to crawl up her ass. Jenelle doesnt give a shit about you but bcoz ur obsessed you need her attention, positive or negative. please don’t breed lol

  • 1) One of the tweets you posted wasn’t even mine. 2) You still failed to prove that I used foul language towards her. 3) Learn what sarcasm is. 4) Goodnight, HEATHER CLOUSE.

    • WTF

      Um…stalker. totally denying your crazy obsession. Its not like you get paid to blab her business. Focus on your own life and if youre so concerned about all the attention Jenelle gets youre only contributing to it you idiot! My god. If your a mother and a wife act like one. Youre acting like an idiot teenager. I would be embarrassed if you were my mother or wife. Get a day job, log off the internet. You obviously spend way to much time on it since youve replied to everything on here. Sheeesh.

      • She is a miserable POS that revels in other people’s misery. What a disgusting piece of work.

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  • Brittany

    Everyone bashing and bullying Carmen, she is exposing the truth. And also, Courtland is completely stalking Carmen and going above and beyond trying to get some kind of criminal charges thrown against her for his own dumb a** mistakes. He is a cracked out psycho. He and JE are on TV, of course people are going to look into them more. It happens with every reality “star.” Go b**** about that bullying BS on a Real Housewives forum or other reality forum, they get it too.

    And good, you notice her “bashing” JE but do you also happen to notice the young teens that idolize JE? It is so sad and disgusting to know that these little girls really look up to her. SHE IS ON DRUGS. Period. How anyone can deny it, I don’t know. JE needs to just be honest and portray her life as what it is: a mess. If she were honest, she would not have anyone trying to get the truth out of her. Telling the truth would be an admirable thing for her to do: admit her faults, try to get help, and move on. Habitual liars are not good people. It’s so stupid to lie about. Many people have drug addictions and other problems and she has a chance to really influence people in a positive way by admitting her faults and getting help, yet she will not do it!
    No one WANTS to see her fail. She can’t get help unless she admits she has a problem in the first place. Since all of her laundry is being aired, I don’t think she can hide her secrets much longer. She will have to be honest and then hopefully, she can get her life together. Poor Jace. I can’t say it enough: poor Jace.

    • Courtney

      I really honestly think Jenelle THINKS she is telling the truth when she lies because she is so messed up from drugs AND a psychological problem. I really think that she lies so much that she lives in this La La world and believes her lies. When ever she tries to defend herself she makes the dumbest defense remark and then you can almost see that she realizes how dumb it sounds but then goes further with her lies and she really believes that she’s making valid points when ANY normal or sober person listening to her would be thinking, “are you serious?” It’s almost like she growing, learning and maturing at a 12 year old level. I feel bad for Barbra but she is an AMAZING person to step in and raise Jace at her age and stage in life! She didn’t ask for this, Jenelle brought this all into Barbra’s life and dumped it on her and would rather focus on guys and trying to be ANYONE’S wife than straightening up HER mess that’s effecting everyone else. And yes it’s VERY sad to hear little girl’s praise and look up to Jenelle! MTV should have dropped her AND Amber after their first run in with the law! That should be a contract violation!

      • Courtney

        *stopped growing oops

  • Zazz

    I don’t think Barb is an amazing person… all of her kids are terrible people from what we’ve seen. One messed up kid..ok, three? You’re doing something wrong. I HONESTLY think that her taking care of Jace is an attempt to redo what she did wrong with her own kids. When you can look and see things like “Maybe letting my children do whatever they want with no boundaries and never giving them a single hug was a bad thing?” You can change it. She didn’t directly ask for this, but by raising a child without actually raising her she did cause it. I’m surprised she doesn’t have custody of her other daughter’s kid too if she’s as similar to Jenelle as others claim. It may be that she has custody of Jace because their would be literal riots in the street to get him taken from her if Jenelle still had custody and was house hopping with him. However, even being a neglectful parent that house hops and does drugs in front of their kid takes more energy than just giving the child to your mom and saying bye.